Podcasts

In The Modern People Leader Podcast, we go behind the scenes with HR executives to hear about their daily routines, what it means to be a Modern People Leader and we will discuss the latest topics in the HR world. Our goal is to keep you up-to-date on the latest trends, and to help spark conversations and change within your organization. You can access our episodes below. Or you can subscribe to The Modern People Leader directly on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

75 – Group chat: Gen Z’s impact on how we work

In this episode we had three return guests for another MPL group chat:

  • Laura Robblee, CHRO at Zuora
  • Steve Cadigan, Former CHRO of LinkedIn & author
  • Stephanie Cramer, SVP of People at MGAC

We discussed how Generation Z is impacting the future of work.

Timestamps:

  • Are we in a recession? (16:21)
  • Echo quitting (21:28)
  • There are more commonalities between generations than differences (27:55)
  • Employees have higher expectations for their employers than ever before (29:20)
  • Younger generations are far more entrepreneurial (37:52)
  • Everything is subscription oriented and it’s affected how people think about work (41:58)
  • Gen Z and in-person work (43:50)
  • More top talent will go independent than we’ve ever seen in the past (49:40)
  • Companies have an internal awareness problem, not a recruiting problem (53:06)
  • The one thing organizations should focus on to position themselves as an employer of choice for Gen Z (58:00)

74 – Career advice from MPL guests

In this episode we reflected on MPL guests’ responses to our three rapid-fire questions:

  • What career advice would you give your 22-year-old self? (1:25)
  • If you had a magic wand, what would you fix in HR? (16:43)
  • What’s coming next for the future of work? (27:05)

73 – Group Chat: Hybrid work’s impact on DEI

This week we had three return guests for another MPL group chat:

  • Darren Murph, Head of Remote at GitLab
  • Hallie Bregman, The Bregman Group
  • Valerie Jackson, Chief Diversity Officer at Zuora

We talked about how COVID has given everyone the opportunity to take the red pill and why focusing on the HOW of work will make the biggest impact on DEI.

Timestamps:

  • Are concepts like quiet quitting new or have they just been rebranded? ( 7:46)
  • People are rethinking how they invest in their “purpose portfolio” (9:00)
  • The unspoken expectations for employees (12:50)
  • Loud retention is the antidote to quiet quitting (18:40)
  • COVID has given everyone the opportunity to take the red pill (21:55)
  • Has hybrid work made DEI harder or easier in the workplace (29:26)
  • Focusing on the HOW of work and not just the WHERE will make a bigger impact on DEI (35:17)
  • What the next evolution of DEI work will look like (44:15)
  • What it means to be a Modern People Leader (57:32)

72 – Quiet Quitting & why being a CHRO is so hard

This episode was recorded a couple of weeks ago, so we apologize if the content from this episode is a little dated. We talked about Malcolm Gladwell’s thoughts on remote work, quiet quitting, and our 3 biggest takeaways from our last 5 episodes.

Timestamps: 

  • Malcolm Gladwell’s thoughts on remote work (1:25),
  • Quiet quitting (11:23),
  • Layoffs in 2022 (15:30),
  • Our 3 biggest takeaways from the last couple of months on MPL (23:00),
  • Companies are recession-proofing (23:50),
  • Being a CHRO is really hard (30:50),
  • And the next 12-months will be the year of the Modern People Leader (49:10). 

71 – Ciara Lakhani (Chief People Officer, Dashlane) on what HR can do during times of uncertainty

Ciara Lakhani, Chief People Officer at Dashlane, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about what HR can do to weather the storm during economic downturns, employee expectations for their organizations versus investors, and Dashlane’s employee feedback strategy.

Timestamps: 

  • How Ciara ended up in HR (4:20),
  • Why we should be jealous that she gets to work at Dashlane (9:20),
  • The most important traits for people leaders during times of economic uncertainty (12:20),
  • What people leaders can do during economic downturns (13:28),
  • Being transparent with your people during difficult times (18:08),
  • Employee expectation being out of step with your current economic environment (21:34),
  • The long-term tradeoff of job hopping (28:00),
  • The gaps between how investors and employees see things (32:00),
  • Dashlane’s employee feedback strategy (33:30),
  • How Ciara shares engagement data with the leadership team (36:18),
  • And the advice she’d give to her 22-year-old self (37:53).

70 – Valerie Jackson & Laura Robblee on Their Flourishing CHRO/CDO Relationship

Zuora’s Laura Robblee, CHRO, and Valerie Jackson, Chief Diversity Officer, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why their CHRO/CDO partnership works so well and how they’re laying the foundation for a new Zuora.

Timestamps: 

  • Their favorite thing about working with one another (16:40),
  • Prioritizing diversity and inclusion at Zuora (21:50),
  • Why having both the CDO & CHRO reporting to the CEO works for them (25:08),
  • The swim lanes for HR & DEI at Zuora (30:00),
  • Why diversity is a measure of organizational health (37:39),
  • Why their leadership playbook is a big focus for them right now (40:05),
  • The summit they’re hosting for VP + folks at the company (44:00),
  • The career advice Valerie would give her 22-year-old self (47:10),
  • And what Laura would fix in HR with a magic wand 49:10)

69 – Melissa Werneck on ”The Year of the Manager”

Melissa Werneck, Global Chief People Officer at Kraft Heinz, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the work Kraft Heinz is doing to help support and develop their managers, why it was important for the move from a “know it all” culture to a “learn it all” culture, and how they’re using new tech to turn their ambitions into reality.

Timestamps:

  • Why we should be jealous she gets to work at Kraft Heinz (9:58),
  • Moving from a “know it all” to a “learn it all” culture (14:28),
  • The year of the manager at Kraft (22:20),
  • Only 10% of people are naturally wired to be a manager (23:00),
  • The launch of Project WIN (24:20),
  • How they’re using nudges to make their ambitions a reality (34:20),
  • Why the forgetting curve is real (37:43),
  • The advantages of being an early adopter of new tech (39:00),
  • How they’ve been able to scale people programs at such a large organization (42:20),
  • And the career advice she would give her 22-year-old self (45:06).

68 – Stephanie Cramer on Applying Solution Selling to Recruiting

Stephanie Cramer, Vice President of Human Resources at MGAC, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how she’s incorporated solution selling into the way she recruits and what MGAC is doing to support their employees’ mental health.

Timestamps:

  • Why we should be jealous that Stephanie gets to work at MGAC (11:20),
  • How recruiting has changed in the last 10 years (14:08), how she’s incorporated solution selling into recruiting (16:10),
  • Stacking the deck in your favor to land the dream candidate (17:58),
  • What discovery looks like at each stage in the recruiting lifecycle (22:00),
  • Applying her empathic approach to recruiting to herself and her mental health journey (25:35),
  • Her purpose analogy for life (30:10),
  • What MGAC is doing to support their employees’ mental health (34:57),
  • Empowering employees to get more active on social media (40:40),
  • And the career advice she’d give her 22-year-old self (46:35).

67 – Beth Steinberg on Investing in Leaders Early On

Beth Steinberg, Senior Vice President of People and Talent at Chime, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about why it’s so hard to find good HR leaders, what happens when you don’t invest in leaders early enough, and long-term talent planning.

Timestamps:

  • What Beth feels was some of her best work as a people leader (7:00),
  • Why we should be jealous that Beth gets to work at Chime (12:40),
  • The importance of #behuman in business (14:22),
  • Why it’s so hard to find a good HR leader (17:40),
  • What happens when you don’t invest in leaders early on (23:35),
  • How Beth builds business cases for HR investments (27:10),
  • What the people team at Chime is up to right now (31:30),
  • Headcount has become an ego metric (35:08),
  • Putting together a recession proofing playbook (39:20),
  • Creating a framework for what your company will speak out about (41:35),
  • The career advice she’d give to her 22-year-old self (44:00),
  • And the HR problem she’d fix with a magic wand (47:45).

66 – Jackson Lynch On what a good HR Leader Looks Like

Jackson Lynch, 3-time CHRO and Founder of 90Consulting, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about why there needs to be consistency in what’s expected from a CHRO, why talent strategy should be bifurcated from talent operations, and why the job of the CHRO is so difficult.

Timestamps:

  • How working at PepsiCo in the early 2000s shaped his career (9:57),
  • The best and worst career advice he ever received (12:22),
  • Why Jackson thinks there isn’t consistency in what is expected of a CHRO (17:12),
  • We haven’t defined what a CHRO needs to have to be a CHRO (20:22),
  • Why we need to bifurcate operations from talent management (27:40),
  • Getting board members to set clear expectations of what good looks like for an HR leader (31:53),
  • The 3 biggest changes for HR leaders the past couple of years (33:25),
  • Finding the least wrong answer as an HR leader (40:40),
  • How HR teams can think differently about investment decisions being made (46:50),
  • And the four agreements (57:24).

65 – Mai Ton On Being More Than Your Work

Mai Ton, Chief People Officer at Fabric and Author of Come into My Office, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about why your identity shouldn’t be centered around what you do at work, how she prepped her former company for the 4-day workweek, and her book that she published last year.

Timestamps:

  • Why we should be jealous that Mai gets to work at Fabric (10:20),
  • Why your entire identity shouldn’t be centered around your job title (13:35),
  • How companies can help their people rediscover themselves (22:58),
  • Sharing your story of the need to be more than your work (28:30),
  • How Mai prepped her company for the four-day workweek (33:00),
  • A couple of tools for taking control of your time (40:48),
  • Why she wrote a book full of her crazy stories as an HR leader (43:50),
  • The advice she’d give her 22-year-old self (53:24),
  • What she sees coming next for the future of work (55:18), and more.

64- Mindy Honcoop on Learning How to ”Ride The New Bicycle”

Mindy Honcoop, an HR exec with 20+ years of experience, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about employee feedback, the new world of work, and what companies can do to help their people connect.

Timestamps:

  • the best and worst advice Mindy has ever received in her career (11:20),
  • the companies that are getting things right (15:50),
  • what companies can do to better listen to their employees (19:00),
  • learning how to ride the new bicycle of work (28:46),
  • how companies can give their people opportunities to connect (42:55),
  • the definition of connection (45:40),
  • the career advice she’d give her 22-year-old self (50:00),
  • and why she would fix meetings if she had magic powers (51:10).